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RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-09-2012
Alright, I've registered a workshop for Friday. 3 hours because I hope to introduce both Python and Pygame. This should be interesting.
So, how is webstreaming going to work for workshops?
RE: Registrations now open! - KiddoCabbusses - 11-09-2012
If you can desktop cam (Whether using LiveStream ProCaster or whatever home tools you have) and have a microphone and will most definitely be available at that time, I can give you broadcaster privileges and you should be good to go.
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-09-2012
(11-09-2012, 02:14 PM)KiddoCabbusses Wrote: If you can desktop cam (Whether using LiveStream ProCaster or whatever home tools you have) and have a microphone and will most definitely be available at that time, I can give you broadcaster privileges and you should be good to go.
When writing this, I realized that I will most definitely not be available on Friday, so I changed it to Wednesday.
I have a microphone (well, a webcam with a built-in microphone, but I can't do better at the moment) and I will most definitely be available at the new time unless a tornado comes in and tears the house down, but I don't have any programs that can do what you call "desktop cam"ing, just desktop recorders (recordMyDesktop, RecordItNow, and Istanbul; I'm not aware of any streaming functionality in any of these programs). Does anyone know of one of a program that can "desktop cam" that works (natively, no Wine) on GNU/Linux? I can use Windows as a last resort, but it's a pretty big inconvenience and I'd also prefer not to for personal reasons.
RE: Registrations now open! - Kesha - 11-09-2012
VLC might have the capability. A quick google search gives me this http://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=14625
Can't really test it at the moment, but it'll be worth looking into I'm sure
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-09-2012
(11-09-2012, 04:04 PM)Kesha Wrote: VLC might have the capability. A quick google search gives me this http://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=14625
Well, that is not the program I expected that from.
Now the question is, how do I test it?
EDIT: Well, I think I've figured out how to test it, and it seems to me like Livestream only allows you to use their proprietary Windows-and-Mac-only program that they give away.
Any way I could use a different service (assuming I can figure out how to use one of them)?
RE: Registrations now open! - KiddoCabbusses - 11-09-2012
Make your own (dummy) channel on Livestream and have a witness help you out, I'd propose.
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-09-2012
I did that, and I'm not seeing any option to use anything other than the proprietary Windows-and-Mac-only program they give away. Is there any way I could use a different service? (I'm currently exploring Ustream, Twitch.tv, and Justin.tv to see if any of them will work.)
EDIT: Well, either Ustream uses some proprietary program like Flash, or it's just confusing. Either way, it's not going to be any help.
RE: Registrations now open! - KiddoCabbusses - 11-09-2012
http://www.livestream.com/userguide/?title=Use_Flash_Media_Encoder_On2_Flix_live_or_Wirecast_with_Livestream
Does any of this help you?
Unfortunately, regardless of whether it's Livestream, UStream or Justin.tv, these things are a real pain on Linux platforms.
EDIT: Maybe something here is helpful too"
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900963
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-09-2012
The first link seems to only give information specific to those programs, I don't see anything useful to me. (EDIT: maybe that address mentioned in the first one might be useful)
The big problem is if it's possible, I don't know where to stream to. There's no mention of an IceCast server, an address for UDP, or anything, as far as I can tell. It just tells you to download their program.
EDIT: Actually, I don't see how to even create a live video "post"...
RE: Registrations now open! - KiddoCabbusses - 11-09-2012
If it's like Flash Live Media Encoder, the address would look something like what's on this page;
http://www.livestream.com/userguide/index.php?title=Using_Flash_Media_Live_Encoder_with_Livestream
So it'd look something like
"rtmp://publish.livestream.com/mogulus/ncfc2011/username=yourusername
/password=yourpassword/isAutoLive=true"
Also, maybe this FFMPEG guide might be helpful:
http://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/StreamingGuide
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-09-2012
Like I said in the edit of my last post, I just realized that I don't even see how to start streaming on LiveStream, when I say I want to make a live video "post" it just directs me to either paring a broadcaster or downloading their program (Windows, Mac, or iPhone).
RE: Registrations now open! - KiddoCabbusses - 11-09-2012
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, then.
I've used FLME and I connect to the rtmp URL (with proper connection info) and then start streaming. If that doesn't work with the applications you have than it probably just plain wouldn't work. :(
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-09-2012
How do you make the channel, though?
RE: Registrations now open! - KiddoCabbusses - 11-09-2012
Livestream channels are made on Livestream's site but they don't really involve using the Procaster apps or anything, IIRC - you just jot down info in html and there it is.
If you're referring to NCFC specifically: the channel is ncfc2011. Since we're not online yet you could theoretically do your testing on there.
If you don't want to make a Livestream account, I suppose I could try making a "generic" account specifically for anyone with difficulties making Livestream accounts.
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-09-2012
I created an account, no problem, but I don't get how you start a channel. Unless I'm thinking too hard and channels are created like with IRC (just connect to a nonexisting channel and it gets created)?
RE: Registrations now open! - KiddoCabbusses - 11-09-2012
https://secure.livestream.com/myaccount/launchnewchannel
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-10-2012
So... there's two separate Livestream websites.
Well, either I did something wrong when I tried just now or VLC isn't going to work.
RE: Registrations now open! - Wiiboy4ever - 11-10-2012
Ugh..... my computer died out on me before I could basically do anything for my booth. And there's only a day left. What a disaster. :/
RE: Registrations now open! - KiddoCabbusses - 11-10-2012
Shoot, if there's only a day left, then I'm running out of time on doing skits. I think I'll just do one for promoting Satellablog and that'll be my last. :(
RE: Registrations now open! - onpon4 - 11-10-2012
Well, rather than going through figuring out how to livestream on Windows, I think I'd rather just use text chat for comments, and show the code using an external service. I've changed my workshop to a chatroom one.
Does anyone know of a service kind of like PasteBin, but that allows live edits? Your World Of Text will work OK, so I guess I'll use that if not (and post the code on PasteBin periodically), but something more like a text editor, maybe that offers syntax highlighting, would be better.